About Unbound.Love

The meandering conversations of two pastors.

Unbound.Love is what happens when two pastors sit down, start talking, and see where the conversation takes them. Sometimes we begin with theology. Sometimes we begin with something happening in the news. Sometimes it’s politics, justice, the church, or the Bible. And sometimes it’s Halloween candy, Christmas movies, naps, hugging, sports, or the deeply theological question of what Jesus might drive.

We call them meandering conversations because that’s exactly what they are. We don’t come to the microphone pretending to have everything figured out, and we’re not particularly interested in wrapping complicated questions in neat theological packages. We believe faith is big enough for questions, disagreements, laughter, doubt, curiosity, and the occasional (or more often) rabbit trail. In fact, some of the best conversations happen when we wander away from where we thought we were going.

At the heart of Unbound.Love is the belief that theology isn’t something we save for Sunday morning. Faith follows us into the voting booth and the grocery store, into our relationships and our communities, into the news we read and the choices we make. It shapes how we think about racism, sexuality and gender, poverty, immigration, war and peace, creation care, mental health, politics, religious extremism, and what it means to live together in a world that can feel increasingly divided. If it touches human life, chances are there is a theological conversation hiding somewhere inside it.

Over the years, we’ve talked about everything from Christian nationalism, racism, LGBTQ+ inclusion, homelessness, refugees, abortion, antisemitism, and biblical interpretation to Sabbath, anger, family, drinking, church outside the stained-glass walls, favorite Bible characters, the Olympics, and the sacred practice of taking a nap. We’ve recorded conversations from our regular microphones and from places like the Wild Goose Festival. We’ve welcomed guests, asked difficult questions, laughed at ourselves, disagreed with one another, and occasionally discovered that the conversation went somewhere none of us expected. That’s part of the point.

The word unbound matters to us because Christianity can become obsessed with boundaries: who’s in and who’s out, who’s right and who’s wrong, which questions are acceptable, what you’re supposed to believe, and who gets to speak. We believe God’s love is larger than the boundaries human beings create. We believe following Jesus should open us to deeper compassion, wider tables, harder questions, greater justice, and a love that refuses to be contained by the boxes we build around it.

That doesn’t mean every conversation is comfortable. Some aren’t. Faithfulness sometimes means talking about the things we’d rather avoid. It means listening to voices we’ve ignored, examining things we’ve always assumed were true, and being willing to admit that we might have something left to learn. But it also means remembering that theology can be joyful. Faith can include laughter. Church people don’t have to take themselves seriously every second of every day.

So pull up a chair and join the conversation. Bring your faith, your questions, your doubts, your experiences, and your curiosity. You don’t have to agree with us. You don’t even have to know exactly what you believe. There’s room for you in the conversation.

We don’t know exactly where we’ll end up either.

That’s why we call it Unbound.Love: the meandering conversations of two pastors.

Because faith is too important to be afraid of questions, and love was never meant to be bound.